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hey im looking to trade GL items for another class.. mainly BK/SM/Kundun/RF
https://muxlegend.com/en/index.php?page=info&act=getchar&name=HeathCliff&serv=server2
this is my GL .. i can also Sell the GL .
socket items are level 400 socket with seeds DD+Ref max
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5 hours ago, Goku said:As we talked before on Discord, I still gonna insist on my opinion about streaming/streamer.
Because of this program, we brought some good reputation streamers on this server like vitcauscas, godlikerem, nhonnhangame,... They all have a good reputation and bring traffic to our server, so what we are doing is good and working completely fine. I know that this program is also the same with Bless MU which is in our MU Universe, they do that and it worked well. I'm not sure why are you so bothered by this topic when I know that you don't have a single idea about the inflation in our server and reduced income/lost of interest in donate, and if these problems occur, I'm pretty sure that Arturs and Administration will find a way to fix that right away to maintain this server. All these opinions and scenarios about inflation and the "240 coins" examples and no one would donate when they can stream,... it's just all made up by you, it's not happening and you just creating the worst scenarios to stop this. And I know for a fact that because you are a donator, you donated a lot and other players could earn that many bonuses just by streaming is the reason why this topic bothers you and you think this is unfair. 60% of streamers get minimal pay, 35% are getting average pay and only 5% get maximum pay, keep that in mind.
i find it strange how 1 by 1 people who stream and use this system come here defend it and claim to be -none biased - or try present it from some senate view thing.
im going to replay and make some things clear and then i wont replay for this topic anymore.
1: "Streamers are doing pretty good " agreed no one ever argued about that or doubted that.. nor is intending to stop streaming. not at all. the topic is only about how streamers selected and the minimum requirement for reward and the fact that the reward is shared between new and old servers which have different economy !
2:"Because of this program, we brought some good reputation streamers on this server" its not because of this system if you brought them before this went public? also again your whole arguement is wrong because we stated here more than once that specific streamers with views and bring people theres no problem with them being rewarded even more 🙂 and we clearly said that if there was reward system based on the number of views we would have no problem.. but streamer with 1-3 views getting rewared like streamer who would/could have 100 views doesnt seem logical nor fair. such system exist in many games PoE (my main game) literallly pays milions of USD for very known streamers to stream their game (dont offer in game advantage tho) but sure.. if a streamer is a well known have alot of views by all means he deserve these rewards ! you will hear no argue from me. as it is different 1-5 streamers on high views will be equap/above donators than basically every single person on server who want to stream even on 0 views 0 referals will aswell 🙂
3: . "I know that this program is also the same with Bless MU" this is mux here not bless. i dont know bless at all never played bless i dont know the costume setting the costs or anything at all.. therefor i will not say a single thing about bless and you should never bring bless as example or argument.
4: "I know that you don't have a single idea about the inflation in our server"
you make very big false claims here.. you say i have no idea about the inflation in the server but i play here 4-5 months now? since the first day sega opened. ofc i know about the inflation in the server .. im on sega i can see it .. . Sega and Angel are not the same in Angel 500 web = 500-700 server right now? maybe abit more but not huge.
in sega 500 web = 1200-1500 server bons? what 500 bons buy you in angel is not equal what 500 web buys you in Sega. so dont tell me i dont know when im playing 🙂
5: "I know that you don't have a single idea about reduced income" you are right, i dont and i dont even care.. as player its not my concern nor interest how much admin makes or dont make.. why should it be ? i speak from player prespective not from admin prespective . if admin lose or earn have maybe indirect effect on me as player but 0 direct effect and i dont concern my self with what he earns.
6:"I know that you don't have a single idea about the lost of interest in donate" once more you say stuff you shouldnt and can no. how can you say i dont know anything at all about lose interest in donate due to this system when im a donator and im telling you this system erase/delete / destroy my motivation/interest to donate real money here. will i stream from now on instead of using euros on web ? totall @Ivan Nebraska sign me in pls ^^ . 100% im tellling you ill chose stream with 1-3 views instead of donate . so does how you tell me i know nothing of that when im donator and now lost interest to donate? so im sharing with admin my concern about it ofc as donator you come here to cancel basically how i feel about it :)
7: "And I know for a fact that because you are a donator, you donated a lot and other players could earn that many bonuses just by streaming is the reason why this topic bothers you and you think this is unfair." 100% i never make claim that its not the case.. im never claiming to be -none biased- as you guys 🙂 100% im speaking here as a donator who think its very unfair that to "progress faster" or make certain items some of us donated 1-2k euro and now with this system everyone (not few selected people based on views or based on benefit for server) but literally everyone who seek to stream regardless if anyone at all ever see his channel or not.. can get to the exact same point where a person donated 2k euro get. and you still dare say there can and would be no lose of interest in donate? you are conflicting your self. . you say in 1 hand theres no any lose of interest to donate in this system but then you claim that because im a donator and donated alot i dislike this system (the second one is the correct) and you made effort trying to convince me that the amount of bons rewarded are so minimal that dont make any huge different and then you say everyone can reach that exact same with just stream conflicting your self with every line. .
same as you defend this system becuse you use it for free bons i as a donator have right to speak from a donator side and point of view and say that i dont like this system because to me personally it kills the point of donating call it selfish yes !! i abused the system of donation i used the fact that mux is competitive server and that donating will get you a head even if you are not the top player and used that. same as you are using streaming. the current system of streaming clash wth the benefit of donate .. i stand up for the system i use (donate) and you stand for the system you use (stream) you can def come here state your opinions but in no way you can force on me your opinion. . if im as donator telling admin that from my point of view i see no point to donate anymore.. my point is legit and is for admin to consider my point and feelings.
i dont even try to deny that.. i feel that way because i donate alot.. but if more and more donators feels this way or if you say i feel this way because i donated alot you prove my point better than i could ever prove it. so thank you !
with this much said im leaving this subject i said all there is to say and so have you guys.. ill leave it for admins for consideration if system remain
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17 minutes ago, nvquoc916 said:lower items and pet muun => loose => cry to nerf.
Kundun and SM are 2 class need to out item to kill other. if not, they are weaker than a mobyou talk none sense 🙂 im max items mux +15+pvp lottery lion lottery demon/spirit + full socket set levle 400 seeds dd max reflect max def
dd/ref/hp rings Full options earrings CS wings +15 Muun = bunny 750 attack... all max..
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1 hour ago, laidback said:Just a few flaws I noticed in your logic. I will keep it very short and hopefully non-biased.
One is that you assume that everyone that streams earns 4200 Web Bonuses a month. At most 1 or 2 streamers match Ivans criterea for highest reward (I am assuming the best case scenario for your arguments). Even then, they would need to stream all month non stop for 2 hours a day, total of 56+ hours MINIMUM. And hell.. if they manage to do all that, touche, here are your very much earned bons good sir, thank you for doing the server good. Do not kid around saying a typical streamer earning 300-500 bons every 7th stream can ridiculously inflate the server markets economy.
Second is that you categorise Bonuses that are rewarded for streaming as 'Free'. Time is money. Those who invest more of their precious time will succeed over those who dont (with some exceptions of luck 🙂) Real life or in game, facts stay facts. I think this one is pretty straight forward, additional explanation is unnecessary I hope.
Just knowing these two things alone make your core arguments and statements fall apart, BUT, Heath, I must say I do love you for wanting a positive change and actually taking your time to engage yourself and others in a discussion, so I respect you for that.So, ladies and gentlemen, life is neither fair or unfair. But if you wish to play competitively, there is not easy way to the top. Take the opportunity, invest what you can, and if you cant, too bad, you wont get a free medal 😛
i thought you were gonna keep it "non-biased" ?
now bitting and taunting a side. . you and i know way back pretty much since fairly early stages of sega.. we have had respect convos and communication even when we were in enemies guild going all out pk between the guilds in borg saga... you and i still been friendly and talked alot.. way before you became apparently senate and probably way before you started streaming? i hope we will still respect each other despite having different opinions which is normal.
that being said.. im sorry but your comment is screaming biased and tbh very defensive as if i was talking specific at you.
even if not at max the requirement for 800 bons per week is at the minimal and none exist. . especially if this would change as my suggestion say to a 1 hour and 5 times a week.
the fact that you insist of a full indivudal pay and not split in guild kinda seem selfish if you ask me.
as for 800 bons per week reward basically require you play normally couple hours just with mice open and while recording a stream. especially if we change it to the 1 hour i suggested being "active" 1 hour is basically doing a round of volcanus for ruud and some archeon .. it flies in this game.. answering questions im sorry but id love to think and believe this is something we all do in our normal gameplay despite streaming or not.. lets be realistic its not like any one going to have 1k views at a time and have to answer tons of questions.
time is money sorry but this is a game and you play here for enjoyment enabling stream might take some extra effort and in my suggested system you are rewarded pretty nicely for that
you dont want to be rewarded for "your time for the server" you want and already are creating a situation where you tell people if you dont stream or donate (quite a large amount of money)
you have no way of ever playing competitive .. and you hear this from a dude who roughly donated 2k euro.
also you make it sound and make fale claims that you invest "more time' than others.. while in rerality a player who will play even 20 hours more than you every day (totally unrealistic amount of extra hours) will still in no way will make anywhere near the progress you make with the 2 hours streaming alone.. how is this balance between time investment and reward in your opinion? fact is.. the amount of bons you can farm in this game by gameplay alone is so minimal which is designed that way to make donating worth it..
that even if someone play 5-10 times more hours than you every day.. and the only different is you stream and he doesnt. . his chance to keep up with you will be a round 0 !
is this the fair reward you seek? doesnt seem so fair to me.
also.. you see is as "typical streamer 500 bons" but you are missing the entire point and you are so defensive about your bons and your own way of advatage and progress that you dont see that its not about Mass or fenix or anyone indivudal when you come public like this in post expect soon 20-30 streamers each of them 500-800 bons per week thats over 16k bons per week avrage on server thats 65k web bons per month in server hell yes this will destroy economy and value !
and hell yes streamers who passively (pretty much) get 500-800 bons than in old server translate to 1500-2400 server bons per week... their finger on click on market buy bless/soul/wings/ much easier than a player who doesnt stream and get maybe 10 bons per some rr and 4 bons from votes per day.. you guys easily buying the jewels and goods up their price in market for the normal player..
im all in for people stream and i offered amazing reward in my suggestion. . but people going greedy with the stream and creating a situation where you have to stream if you want to play mux... thats aweful.
and yes it totally kill destroy erase the point of donating right now.. i hope that we can have different opinions and still be buddies but i would understand if some people would make it personal and can not accept different opinions stances and point of views.
i stand on my stance where the current offered system is awful in many ways.. also
"So, ladies and gentlemen, life is neither fair or unfair. But if you wish to play competitively, there is not easy way to the top. Take the opportunity, invest what you can, and if you cant, too bad, you wont get a free meda" this is awful and wrong of you to say.. especially when i donated here in sega around 2k euros and you donated how much? Umm...... let me guess close to 0? you tell me to invest? maybe i should use the same kind of approach and language.. and tell you " so mr Mass if you want to be competitive then start to invest ding ding money ofc.. .. how would you feel ? you say theres no easy way to the top.. but you are now exactly on an easy way to the top with entirely free bons buying top gears.
so you make claims of no easy way to the top while you are here defending exactly that an easy way to the top... i should say if you want an easy way to the top then donate..
that comment of yours not only was disappointing selfish and greedy but also disrespectful to me as donator .. and to all others players who come to the game and want to play without being forced to stream !-
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17 minutes ago, Skedi said:try it urself and u will see if is easy or not..
i work almost all day and i return home 00:00/01:00 and after that i have to make stream for 2 hours and be active not afk and finish around 3 o clock at night even if i am fking tired from work.
if u guys think is not fair.. go and try it then 🙂You make it personal like its about you.. i get that you defend system that provide you plenty of bons to gear up.. but its not about you.. i could go same way as you and say if you think stream is so hard you can use donate right? But i dont.
Its not about you but about how the system made.. maybe you are active 2 hours but not all will be. Theres no way that admin would watch every streamer evety day to confirm hes active or do is part especislly when this goes public.. ive know that you mass and some others stream for a while now yes? Never publicly said anything about it.. but when admin make system like this ill speak.
Even if admin would watch every stream this wouldnt even solve major problems.
Based on the rules alone. Ignoring entirely you as individual but just reading the rules.. it only require of people who want to stream to open stream and play at the basic not do a single thing beyond the rest is only bonus open mice, is a coice answer questions is a choice.. .. which let me tell you 99% of future streamers will report all these conditions .
Yes im sorry you considering the base requirements that doesnt require any minimum amount of views dont require any minimum referals through stream link.. or anything at all.. just open stream and play.. yes thats easy 🙂 and this is 1 of the main issue no minimum requirments
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47 minutes ago, Shanahan said:If you think it's so easy to be a cool streamer, then become one and earn bonuses.
You dont need to be cool, you get bons regardless of being cool or having views
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1 minute ago, halu said:First page
"Hello, i know its not about SM/Kundun but maybe its beter to ask here than starting new topic, i wanted to ask about slayer, not regarding DPS but mechanics, is it intended for bat flock to stuck like this ? cause in my view it just stucks and doesnt work properly but it may be intended, just asking. "
Ohh, yes the main purpose of this skill the red bats yes? To apply a debuff on enemy that apply alot of extra dmg when using your step skill main dmg skill.. so basically you want to apply debuff bats on enemy and then use the main dmg skill forgot name
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4 minutes ago, halu said:So no answer about SL batflock ??
What about it?
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4 minutes ago, davud133 said:But on sega only Super duper geared SM outperform someone =(
They already nerfed my Soul barrier ))))
Your dmg still 2+ times my gl dmg.. both maxed out. And you have 7 range .. i have 2 you have tp.. and slow. And gl not even bad.. sum worse elf worse sly worse lemuria worse
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7 minutes ago, rawolf2 said:see your class destroying rest of the server and continue defending it like "its not OP" is not normal aswell
From his point of view which isnt entirely wrong.. his sm more geared than 99.9999% of the server. So thats not the factor. My gl can probably kill most of the server but because im as geared as mattoni.. but people who are geared like me.. i lose.
What i try to say is not that sm isnt op..sm and kundun both are unreasonably op.. but that you cant blame mattoni ^^
Its admin job to make proper tests
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2 minutes ago, rawolf2 said:Absolutely agree, but it doesn't mean that class he is playing right now must be above others. I stand for a fair game
Yes that true, but its normal to defend your class and its admin job to test. Its not mattoni fault sm op 🙂
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8 minutes ago, rawolf2 said:If you are surprised why mattoni is defending his so hard, just go to Discord, in search line type Mattoni and look his messages back in 2020. Back then we were playing at x5000 and he was playing BK. BK became super OP class cuz all the time he was crying about how shit damage BK has. (Tbh BK was ok since opening especially due allowed combo clicker). And yeah, back then he also was crying about DL, so we got nerfed DL and even Summoner's reflect skill (poor summoners). Defending your class is okay, but let's be honest - SM and Kundun are OP right now
Mattoni is good guy and good player. 0 bad words for him
1 of the better people i know in server 🙂
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16 minutes ago, rawolf2 said:Also we have to remember that SM and Kundun can survive paralyze just jumping in teleport
And avoid sd potion cd ? No sd? Np.. just tp till cd over. Also avoid bad situations
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14 minutes ago, Ivan Nebraska said:Lottery is a really random thing. As I explained in conversation with you. Let's say a players streams for the whole month every day. We reward him with the lottery tikets. He gets only low tier drops, says fck this server, I've spent so much time here and got nothing and leaves. I don't believe lottery rewards are good for keeping streamers in a long-term.
The argument that donaters will stop donating is odd, as donations are meant to reduce grinding process, get things you want faster. And to get rewards for streaming, you have to stream 14 hours, bother with stream settings, graphics, answer people in chat and so on. And to get significant amount of bonuses, you have to do all these things perfectly. WIth donations you gist press a few buttons and cash out the bonuses.
About inflation, we don't really have that many streamers in general, especially streamers who get more than 500 for 7 dayly streams, to influence the market. That is up till the current moment. And I don't think we well, as majority players would prefer to play and not bother with steaming.
About gulds streamers and Siege streaming, we can't give admin accounts to some random guys we don't know. Though the idea itself is pretty good, by my opinion.
Then you dont fully understand my suggestion, allow me to make it clear. Players will stream using their own accounts playing as they normally would. Just with condition of using mice or paying attention to chat to answer questions but would play normally.
You can also lower requirments then from 7 days to 5 days from 2 hours to 1 hour.
This way.. strean reward is bonus. So its always worth if.
Also i suggest that streamer will stream under guild name not person.. for example vgn stream/eternals stream so on so on heros stream.. 1 person per guild will stream . For that week the person get free vip, and every member in his guild get some 3-5 lottery coins. Say guild has 40 members thats 3x40=120 total lottery per week 1 month is 440 coins for the guild.. random or not its still statistic the odds of the entire guild gets nothing at all is kissing the 0. This will motivate people join guilds which will drasticly improve and increase the competition and give. Heros chance to fight other strong guilds and also split the power giving among the server . A person streaming will do it under guild name for the guild benefit and not only his own. But for the effort he will get free vip which the other guild members dont!!
This will also help greatly new players and make lotter items more available and easier to buy for bons,
But another very important benefit guilds streaming will allow new players to watch how every guild play and behave get a peak inside and able to chose better which guild he want to join....
Say im new player.. i watch now heros stream... im very impressed by their team work i pm cay / or the person streaming for heros and ask to join ..
This will basically make everyone join a guild which is crucial part in keep them playing long!
Your statement about donate is also not true.. if theres alot of free web bons items increase in bons price .. now my 240 usd buy me less than used to if price up.
Also if everyone stream the benefit in donate is very slim and why i sprlend 400 euro if i can stream 1 month 2 hours a day .
You need to keep balance and the concept of streaming. I love that there are streans but even with 1 streamer from each guild its alot of streamers enough! And the reward you need to think about the huge benefit for guild even at 3 coins per person its 240 coins for a guild every month! Im 100% sure every guild will stream for 240 coins. And you also motivate people into group play.. and you dont need to trust anyone .. they stream on their own chars streaming normal gameplay.
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4 hours ago, davud133 said:Reduce HP? SM has least amount of HP out of all classes
Barrier? what do barrier has to do with dmg,
Can some1 name any other Sm than me and Cay tien who were killing people?
No one on server)
Make SM u will see that without super duper gear it does not worth anything
Guys if u get max out gear on any char it will be good, except slayer of course on sega XD
SM is fine, if u so obsessed with barrier, ok nerf barrier, but don't touch sm dmg, without dmg this class is useless
If U reduce SM and Kundun dmg, then good luck in killing tanks in game, at CS will be simple tank game, no need any dmg dealer )
1:in sega gap in life between classes isnt big. . at max vit if theres any different between classes other than BK then its very minimal
2:SM is not fine, nor is Kundun. when comparing to other classes at max gear both SM and Kundun will have perhaps 2-3 times dmg ok? nope.
3:Sm barrier seem to already been nerfed and limited to 30%, which is still strong considering its free 30%. but there is still teleport without CS which need to have CS , and theres debuffs like slow and long range already making both Kundun and SM already hard to kill without barrier. . the DMG is still way too high and nuking people.
4: dont use CS to excuse the unrealistic and unhealthy dmg of SM/Kundun.. maybe nerf DL def and reduce the damage penatly in CS/arca from 50% to 30% then there will be no problem killing tanks in there.. even tho that doesnt even matter anymore anyway? becuase already people dont bother to kill tanks in cs/arca and all only use knockbacks.
balane at the moment is bad and we are all waiting for the update.
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im going to state here opinion that will get alot of cross fire. . and its ok.. im ready for all the people who use this system for their selfish personal opinion to come defend it..
im still gonna leave here an honest opinion and say this system is bad and not only will hurt server economy but also create a situation where playing in mux you must be either a donator or streamer . and also.. demotivate from donating.. why donate when everyone can get free bons?
ill explain the issue and also provide a suggestion to improve this system :
the problem is..
1: inflation and creating massive gap between streamers and none streamers. . someone who stream 2 hours a day for 1 month will get 4200 web bons at sega ratio of web bon/server bons thats +- 12k server bons in sega.. or to be fair 4200 web bons you can simply buy nearly maxed out char .. 2 months streaming you will buy all maxed ouit char . what is the point to play if you dont stream? even if you donate you can not keep up with free bons. . donators are more self restrainted because donator isnt free bons if a donator or streamer go on a bidding the streamer will win it he can out bid donator easily .
2 : inflation ... with so much web bons filling the servers imagine situation of 10-20 streamers streamers will easily be able to buy all blessers/exe jewels on market due to the amount of bons available. while none streamers will simply be left behind.. at the same time the value you get for donate is dropping massivly.. instead of streamers trying to keep up with donators you create situation where donators will be behind streamers? this is bad. .
my suggestion :
remove bon reward for streaming.. and reward with VIP+ lottery coins
when you get lottery coins you use them get items and this help new players because if alot of streamer get muxes from lottery or FO weapons they dont need they will be on sale for lower price for normal players to buy.. and also more attractive price for donate.. instead of 2-3k bons for mux which is 120+ euro we might see 1k price which is much more attractive for donate at 60 euro
another key here is that bons/web bons transfer between server at huge rate.. sega bons are kinda 1:3 ratio betwen web/sega 4k = 12k
and lottery coins can not be transfered.
another suggestion that i want you to consider is. . make it that only 1 person from each guild (preferably guild leader but not a must) will be able to register for streaming
so each guild will have 1 person streaming from guild.. and the reward instead of being selfish individual 1 person stream for his own benefit you could reward the entire guild with some lottery coins. and the person who made the stream reward with VIP also. so 1 person (the streamer get VIP+lottery coins)
and the rest of the guild get some lottery coins each.. maybe 3-5 coins each.. this.. will split the power and not 1 person will max out but basically all players will get some psuh and keep gap to minimum .. this will also motivate people in guilds to look after 1 another and share reward for these lottery coins if you got fo weapon not for your class you will give it to guild mate. this will help alot new players who join guilds.. and will also motivate people to join guilds and play as teams !
im 100% sure in this system every guild will have 1 person streaming from the pressure from guild members for the guild reward.-
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15 minutes ago, davud133 said:Guys, As SM player I can say that
SM is good only 1 vs 1 , on full buffs no (and only if maxed gear, can you show me any other sm than mattoni and Ex Caytien who was killing top geared people)?
Kundun is good only on Full buffs, on 1 vs 1 No
Sugardaddy was loosing me in duel 10 -0 , but on full buffs he shot me often, when I had eclipse set +15
Buscu MG was max geared and easily killed my SM back that time : )
Just make sm or Kundun yourselves u will see its not op, so many SMs on server and only 2 person Shined : D just because of gear
Right now Healtcliff is max gear, and in duel its 50/50 ,
And before sugar dady came to server all was telling Kundun is piece of crap, just when he geared he started to shine
as for video, Kent i am pretty sure Kundun without brilliant set cant shot you, either few people hit you, either medusa hit you as well , 1000%
He would shot 165k hp only if he get tripple dmg and paralyse at that time
But anyways in March update sm and kundun will becomes useless trash so dont even worry about it : )
Regards
Friendly Mattoni 😄
sorry brother i love you and you know that. .we are friends here how long ? i have to 99% disagree with you here.. theres only 1 thing im going to agree with you and that SM> kundun in 1v1 (reason is very obvious SM has barrier which is entirely broken at the moment by far the strongest buff in game infact barrier >all buffs in game all together, 60% absorb on full ene is just wow) and then yes in group fight (when kundun has barrier) it is stronger than SM.. even then im so sorry i say it to you.. here.. but SM / Kundun simply are extreemly over powered regardless of buffed/not buffed.. because DMG does not change too much when buffed right now in terms of speaking about "buffed" vs "unbuffed" its more like speaking "have barrier or doest have barrier" this is how over powered Barrier is right now. but 0 buff or "full buff" both SM DMG and Kundun DMG are over powered and over powered my friend is an understatement i can somewhat understand 10-15% more dmg between classes.. but the fact that SM/Kundun who are number 1 and 2 even if we will make claim that GL is the 4th place.. in pvp both SM and kundun have 3-4 times more dmg than GL. the gap is off the scale of being legit ! im maxed as you mentioned and yes we dueled and yes i was able in some cases to kill you, i was trying not to share of it here since there stuff you and i agreed we should taste and havent yet. . but truth is i was only able to kill you when you let me stand next to you face to face in my 3 range with my full sucket and reflect and both you and i attacked at the same time so you died from reflect + my dmg.
however when i was hitting you my self without you attacking it took a fair while for me to kill you when you stand there even tho you were wearing a ruud set which considered glass cannon set due to less dd. + you used gold fenrir for more dmg instead of your lion + i had to use my demon instead of my guardian angel. only then i was able to kill you and thats when you stand dont move and dont attack and it took about a minute or so.. on the other hand.. if i wasnt using shield skill i was dying within 1-2 seconds on demon i was dying even while using shield skill for reduced dmg and not trying to attack .. my GL is entirely maxed out as you said and also built with rougly 29k vit. kundun dmg is no different the only different is kundun doesnt have barrier so it isnt as tank as SM. in a duel where you would keep distance with TP and use meteor strike my chances are 0 at the current balance.
im maxed GL whom admin make claim of tank and your SM delete me in a second or two i think thats not an okay dmg. 119 k HP. GL . i understand why you defend your class and its not the wrong thing to do.. none of us has desire for SM or Kundun to be bad.. infact i believe kundun should still be 1 of the 3 highest dmg classes . . along side slayer and mg maybe RF. .
but with a more realistic gap between classes and not 300% stronger.
as for SM.. im sorry but i honestly dont believe SM should be anywhere near the top DPS. barrier is just way to OP .. 1 buff that is many times stronger than all the buffs in game together SM in ruud set is tankier in 1v1 than any other class (maybe aside from DL) in any set. we are also not even discussing teleport here which by its self is a broken skill .
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i agree 100% . its true wizard classes scale better than attack class due to the % on mux .
but SM and Kundun when have mux +15 maxed dmg just becomes way above any other class .. i can live with small gap 10-15% maybe even 20% ..
but in real pvp their dmg is like unrealisticly higher than others. and they still have TP long range .. slow.. Kundun is also AOE.. and SM got barrier
in 1v1 SM is kinda the tankiest class in game right now (sega) and also have dmg compareable only with Kundun.
i highly and kindly ask Admin @Arturs when testing pvp right now this month make sure he use mux staff/book +15 for SM/Kundun.. becuse mux/+15 have much greater effect on these classes than on other classes with attack due to the % . thank you.
edit.. im sorry admin.. but right now.. if no fix / nerf to DMG kundun/SM .. if max items no point play any class.. all need play only SM/Kundun.. or no play.. gap is serious not ok.. dont only test 1 hit dmg.. but speed too dps.. how fast kill pvp-
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1 hour ago, Positive said:Socket sets will be reworked this year and if something change now in exe sets , later when new mechanics of socked sets will be applied we will have same problem that exe sets is useless.
yes, I’m playing in Prime and there is also problem with socket sets … building is very expensive and almost worthless…. But as I said we need wait updates with balance for the beginning and only then discuss about sets. It’s just my opinion and that’s all 🙂btw if you playing in Angel there is too early talk about sets on low res/stats
hey bro.. i dont disagree with all.. and dont get the idea that im on the offensive with you.. but prime and sega have different setting.
if you think socket is useless in prime imagine its nerfed in sega? 6% reflect instead of 7%
i believe socket should remain hard and expensive to make its a long term goal endgame set.
i also do not think socket should be reworked because the concept of socket here is good.. a tanky build set an alternative for ruud set.
the problem is just that exe is better. and the numbers of socket. with these changes socket will be worth upgrading from exe for tankier classes
and ruud will get enough advantage over exe to be worth it for the dps classes !
meanwhile.. im prime you guys have more HP and reflect is less of an issue .. but here if someone build pure reflect and HP +0 meaning 0 dd you are likely to get 1 shoot by reflect. -
6 minutes ago, Positive said:Well fist of all exc sets are not better than ruud or socket. You have options to choose which build you gonna play.
Want extra ref? Use socket set.you will have huge ref + hp but less absorbWant deal more def ? Exc set +15+dd+hp waiting for you )) very good def , but no ref and no dmg (tank build)
Need extra dmg ? Use ruud set at least +13. You will have some def and incredible power, but def and ref against other sets will be less.
so it’s three possible builds. What I see , is that you can’t stand against one of these builds with your own and you feel so sad about it that you rush into forum and make “suggestions” but real problem is in your character.
I could agree with some changes here , but mostly not. Will wait balance update soon and then we could make some decisions about what is good and what is wrong 😑its a fact that EXE atm is too strong and pretty sure almost everyone agree that right now exe > ruud/socket especially when considering the effort and cost to make socket/ruud
socket set is disabled for a reason in Angel
your comment clearly say that you didnt really read everything nor understand the concept and reason of these changes.
when the end result is pretty much similar to what we have right now .
exe dd+ref +13 will just have 2% less DD (7 down from 9) which is requested considering exe have 2x def as socket and socket has 10% and many other drawbacks
reducing total DD on exe is requested.
also at the same time its issue that players stay on low grade exe reflect + HP +9 with 0 reason or motivation to even make +13 and can fight equally against everyone.. want reflect build ? sure it will still work.. but you will need exe +HP+ref + 13 instead of +9 . and you will still have same amount of Hp same amount of reflect but you will also be forced to ahve 3% dd which will nerf the amount of dmg you reflect to others and prevent 1 shoots from reflects that happens in sega. if you are playing in prime this entire post is irrelevant for you and so is your entire comment.
as for socket. its no secret and admin admit that socket is not worth making right now in sega. exe > socket by alot. and also much easier. you need like 2-3 milion ruud to make socket not to mention around 7k jewels. if not more.. and zen. much harder to make than exe yet its weaker.
this change.. will not only buff socket (by abit 1% reflect extra / 2 if sega 6% is intended) but will also prevent the full reflect abusers to move from exe to
socket set with just 1 seed for higher reflect than exe.. and make more 1 shoots.
maybe go make some homework before stating "facts" and again maybe you play in prime. .if you do.. then this got nothing to do with you and youd have 0 knowledge regarding this. you have high stats in prime this include high HP. in sega dmg is higher than HP and reflect is a real problem it 1 shoot people.-
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@Arturs as you asked if i have other suggestion about reflect i should write and share
i do and this suggestion will not only solve the reflect option withou deleting these builds but will also fix the exe nerf and also fix socket !
Exe options right now
dd = 4%
HP=5%
Ref =5%
+13 = 5% dd +all stat
total 3 options+ 13 9% dd + 4% ref + 5% hp
total 2 options (HP/ref) +9 4% ref +5% hp
total 2 option (HP/ref) + 13 4% 5% HP +5% dd
after change i offer :
dd= still 4%
HP = still 5%
Reflect = 2% !!!(yes i know half. but wait you get more reflect soon)
exe + 13 bonus 3% DD + 2% Reflect !
total 3 options +13 7% DD (down from 9%) 4% reflect (same) 5% HP(same)
total 2 options (HP/ref)+9 2% ref (down from 4) 5% HP(same)
total 2 2option (ref / hp ) +13 4% ref(same) 5% HP (same) 3%dd (down from 5%)
why i think its good?
1:it fix the issue where DD +13 exe items are better than ruud/socket by reducing the total DD by 2% making socket/ruud more appealing for endgame
2: it forces pure reflect builds to have some amount of DD or have lower % reflect if keep +9 only 2% reflect down from 4% if make +13 4% reflect but now also have 3% dd to reduce reflect dmg
3: it motivates people even reflect builds to atleast make +13 items and prevent situation where people with grade 10 exe +9 HP/ref to be as competitive as top grade +15 people.
now you might think.... : "but then they will just make socket with only reflect seed" first of all atleast they make effort but here solution for that aswell!
main seeds level 6 right now
HP = 1500 HP
DD = 10% dd
reflect = 6% (sega) 7%(prime) (why nerf socket in sega? should be fixed?)
total with 2 seeds level 6 reflect + DD = 10% dd 6% reflect (7% inprime/after fix?)
total with only 1 seed reflect 6% dd (7% in prime/ after fix?)
after change ! i suggest reducing some DD from DD seed and adding small amount of reflect there and removing some reflect from reflect seed and add some dd there
example ! after change dd/ref seeds
DD seed level 6 after change 8% dd (down from 10) but now also give 3% reflect
Reflect seeds (sega) after change 5% down from 6% (7% in prime) but now at level 6 it will also give 2% DD (to make up for the lost of 2% dd in dd seed)
total result with 2 seeds level 6 (dd+ref) : 10% DD (same) 8% reflect (up from 6/7 after fix/prime)
total option with 1 seed only reflect : 5% reflect down from 6% (7%/after fix/prime) +2% dd
HP no change
while it sound like alot reflect its not really same like exe.. because exe 5% HP on energy BK = maybe 10k hp? and seed hp only 1500.. so BK cant get this crazy amount of HP on socket and will die if build pure reflect and also get some dd.
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16 minutes ago, Arturs said:This is the default reflect mechanic and it is a game tactics from the very begging of this game.
I can understand both sides, but don't see the way, how we can change it right now. If you have other suggestion - please write about it. At least i can say, what we can (technically) make or not.
fair, and i accept that. but i would love if you try find a way that +9 exe set wth 0 gear basically total gear worth of 50 bless that can make in first days of server win pvp against fully maxed out gear. i feel like it takes away the point of getting good items when basically less = more.. especially when the whole concept of mux server especially is gear . with set bonus being huge factor and grades and almost unlimited amount of progressing. it kind of telling people.. dont bother make any item.. just make leather set +0+ref+HP.. and you can fight everyone in server. i hope you can come up with idea to solve this issue. i dont mind losing pvp.. i lose to some.. but fair pvp is what we want,
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1 minute ago, Deleted said:Stupid noob for what forum categories?!
https://forum.muxlegend.com/index.php?/forum/1-general-forum/
u not only stupid also blind? u dont see Discussion category?!
not going down this road with you mate, can provoke call names like you do in game.. you aint worth my time or energy 🙂 if i see fit to replay and make a stand ill make it.. you do the same on suggestions i make.. just that you do it in a toxic way.
consider nerf Vit?
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hey .. right now in sega theres a meta of full Vit everyone is tanky regardless of classes..
because most classes just make 1 stat for dmg and then will attempt to get speed on every item and put as high vit as possible often above 26k vit
the reality and the truth is.. all classes are tanks with vit.. its not GL or any specific class that is tank (well DL/SM / BK are generally more tanky for obv reasons. such as horse/barrier/Swell)
with swell and barrier being party buffs.. all classes are tank.. all you need is high vit +barrier
at the moment even classes that benefit from 2 stats for dmg will only take main stat and rest into vit.. because vit is so strong compared to the second dmg stat
for example.. GL can get dmg from agility but the benefit is minor compared to the extra 70k+ HP that you get from vit over agi and the increase effect of potions
BK avoid adding ene and add vit instead same reasons
DL will do same str + vit and avoid ene
this result in everyone being a tank and other than insanely high dmg dealers classes such as SM / Kundun who can kill fast.. (and should be nerfed along) most fights between other classes end with no winner because none have the dmg needing to kill because we take vit.
i suggest nerf the amount of HP gained from vit for all classes
if BK/GL get 3 HP per vit make it 2
if SM get 2 HP per vit make it 1
and so on so on.. this nerf will not only make killing full tanks much easier in all game modes but will also motivate people to consider their secondary dmg stat as an option and create more build options for all classes .