consider nerf Vit?

[noywk1991 17]

hey .. right now in sega theres a meta of full Vit everyone is tanky regardless of classes.. 
because most classes just make 1 stat for dmg and then will attempt to get speed on every item and put as high vit as possible often above 26k vit
the reality and the truth is.. all classes are tanks with vit..  its not GL or any specific class that is tank (well DL/SM / BK are generally more tanky for obv reasons.  such as horse/barrier/Swell)
with swell and barrier being party buffs..  all classes are tank..  all you need is high vit +barrier

at the moment even classes that benefit from 2 stats for dmg will only take main stat and rest into vit..  because vit is so strong compared to the second dmg stat
for example..  GL can get dmg from agility but the benefit is minor compared to the extra 70k+ HP that you get from vit over agi and the increase effect of potions

BK avoid adding ene and add vit instead same reasons
DL will do same str + vit and avoid ene

this result in everyone being a tank and other than insanely high dmg dealers classes such as SM / Kundun who can kill fast..  (and should be nerfed along)  most fights between other classes end with no winner because none have the dmg needing to kill because we take vit. 

i suggest nerf the amount of HP gained from vit for all classes 
if BK/GL get 3 HP per vit make it 2
if SM get 2 HP per vit make it 1
and so on so on..     this nerf will not only make killing full tanks much easier in all game modes but will also motivate people to consider their secondary dmg stat as an option and create more build options for all classes . 

[Much 18]

SM used to have like 38k max hp, but than top donaters started playing sm and now he has as much hp as everyone else

[noywk1991 17]

6 minutes ago, Much said:

SM used to have like 38k max hp, but than top donaters started playing sm and now he has as much hp as everyone else

it look like almost all classes have like similar HP 2.5-3Hp per 1 point of vit..   not only its bad balance because theres no reason SM and dmg dealer classes esp with long 7 range and teleport and barrier will have similar HP to melee range who are " Tank" 
i also think DL who have very high absorb rate from horse could have his drawback as lower HP and then maybe DLs will invest more into str+ene and make good dmg  

in general all classes vit should be nerfed because right now vit too strong everyone attempt to max vit and all classes are "tank"

additionally HP per class should be reworked and be different long range classes should have less HP per vit. 
 

[Goku 51]

Pretty sure SM has lower HP per Vit point than other classes..

 

[Goku 51]

Also disagree with that, even with full vit you always can die. The reason for this is because it creates better Dueling Gameplay. What do you actually want? Like a 1 hit MU Online? 
- If you are tanky, you deal No Dmg.
- If you got killed by a tanky dude with full vit => You are Weak and you need Better Gear. That's it.

[noywk1991 17]

11 hours ago, Goku said:

Pretty sure SM has lower HP per Vit point than other classes..

 

it does but not by alot.  BK/GL gets around 2.5 per vit SM get around 2 per vit   

[noywk1991 17]

11 hours ago, Goku said:

Also disagree with that, even with full vit you always can die. The reason for this is because it creates better Dueling Gameplay. What do you actually want? Like a 1 hit MU Online? 
- If you are tanky, you deal No Dmg.
- If you got killed by a tanky dude with full vit => You are Weak and you need Better Gear. That's it.

you are wrong here in every single possible way o.O

unless you fight SM if you have max vit you will not die.. take a duel between maxed out gear BK VS GL..  neither of them can kill one another
take a duel between max slayer and BK / GL most likely neither will kill anyone  maybe if para proc in the right moment ?
RF Vs GL likley they dont kill each other 

you are also very wrong about the second statement " if you are tanky you deal no damage"  really????? you suree about that?
1: SM ?????  tankiest class in game with the highest dmg in game??? 
2: BK tank and good dmg ? (still cant kill equally geared max vit classes)
3: GL ?  max str + agi for speed speed on all items 29k vit  tanky and dmg is maxed almost
4: slayer ? you played it you know agi does nothing for slayer nor does ene..  you max str agi for speed rest into vit.. with right items easily max vit 🙂
5: RF ?  max str + vit  ? ??  very high dmg very high tankiness?  
you need more examples or thats enough?

"If you got killed by a tanky dude with full vit => You are Weak and you need Better Gear. That's it."  
always the excuse here need better gear?? but few of us including my self are maxed out 🙂 mux weapon + 15 mux shield both pvp option
wings +15 FO earrings +15 Lion +15 lottery demon/spirit + socket set seeds level 6 so on so on.. everrything is totally maxed
and nah problem is not dying to tanky dude with full vit (only SM )  problem is we dont die ..  you talk about 1 hit pvp but in reality aside from SM we cant kill each other but ofc SM can kill everyone in 1 second while also being among the tankiest classes.  

you make claims but you should prove it..  especially as a senate.  right now..  most classes dont benefit enough from their secondary stat to give up vit.. 
GL will make str + vit 
BK will make str + vit 
DL will make str + vit 
slayer will make str + vit 
SM makes ene + vit 
so on so on..  all classes take just enough agi for speed and move on to vit.  and there are enough points 🙂

my GL need around 12k agi with max items ,  with bought stat and everything you can get 74k? + 4k from ML 
right now my stats are 33k str 12k agi (more form all stat) 29k vit  all classes have it similar now

 

[noywk1991 17]

BK will have 150-180k hp with ML and 4th ML  + swell