noywk1991
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1 hour ago, flytaste said:I understand the high atkspeed but if that is the case… just low highspeed dmge it means the AG will dry up easily
it means that.. in order to keep the attack speed in check admin will have to reduce the limit of attack speed set for MG (attack speed cap)
and while doing this might in theory fix the problem for havok spear skill its self it will be a direct unintended nerf to any other MG build/skill
imagine now MG speed will be reduced down to 100 speed at max to counter the high attack speed of this speed.. what will be the effect on str MG?
if he could (and im not saying he can i dont know if its even possible)
but if he could set different attack speed limit for each skill (unlikely) then it would be easier
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1 hour ago, halu said:removed all good 🙂
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22 hours ago, memaka1 said:I want to tell you that it is very weak in GL DMG / PVP PVE / please check it.. 3/4 GL remained online due to this problem..
as GL my self 🙂 i dont think GL is weak at all.. but it is clunky, AG drain is major complain about GL but its only useable when building full tank..
maybe admin can consider nerf ag drain for people to stop complain and in return buff other sides of GL.. for example make wrath duration longer and remove CD, and do same for Burst buff in ML aswell as increasing range because the 2-3 range is very buggy ... but GL isnt weak but the main problem is you need to max agi+str to max your dmg potential but this leaves you with like 6k vit only? (if you max quest and buy 2k stats from web) -
1 hour ago, wran said:Hold on, I am playing MG as a mage! Is it bad? I love evil spirit lol..
I have created an RF and I can see his BIG damage already! I actually kinda like it.
yeah, like every game!
energy MG is sadly weak right now. in sega no one play it.. everyone playing str MG becuse its way stronger. maybe that will change in future
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18 minutes ago, wran said:It make sense yeah..
Oh that's good :). I started on Sunday so I'm very poor still! haha
Well, I'll be honest, I care only about Angel because I will not go anywhere else^^.You could be an amazing sales manager, ngl. I am gonna try that class and see :).
I still want to keep going with the MG for the golden mobs though. I almost close to the first reset even if I still have lvl 1 wings and nothing excellent XDim 80% sure sega/angel have very similar balance setting.. the main difference might be that sega have socket set enabled and angel socket is disabled.. tank GL will have 0 dmg without socket becuse main dmg of this build is from reflect coming from socket. but str+agi GL have very good dmg regardless
MG is also S tier as you saw it has 1 of the highest dmg of all classes and it require mainly str for dmg.. that leaves plenty of stats for vit.. its not as tanky as RF (my own personal opinion ) but it has more speed than RF making it perhaps better dmps.. you can not go wrong with MG or RF at the moment.. RF items are generally cheaper (usually?) because its less played class than MG for some reason. but both MG/RF are plenty strong and viable to be among the top pvp right now.. keep in mind maybe there be changes in the future -
2 hours ago, wran said:I think I will try it^^ Thanks!
Oh I know you're not saying it but it felt a bit like "big damage now but a bit useless later" lol. I want something consistent, if you know what I mean. Hopefully will be good then^^
I have just bouth the "scroll of etramu" and my MG is actually shredding stuff now. Didn't know about it. lol.I am enjoying the MG but I really like the summoner skills. I wanted to be able to kill, at least, the golden dragons so I thought she would be good.
Yeah, I know that items are the biggest part of the character but I want something worth the time, if you know what I mean.
Thank you!i actually play only in sega.. so i have 0 option about prime/angel.. but from what i hear angel have similar setting as sega
prime also have alot more stats than sega.. which massively effect balance .
ill speak about sega which is where i play .. RF is an amazing choice for late game. . in sega you have enough points to max 2 stats and RF main stats are str/vit. so you max out str and vit for dmg but also life.. other classes for example DL/GL cant max str + agi + vit or str + ene + vit. . if GL want big dmg you max agi+str but you have only 6k vit
RF is amazing i wouldnt really bother with the list and stars about def/ dmg because its not accurate at all..
RF is actually 1 of the tankiest classes in sega.. because def = almost nothing here.. max vit = tank in sega.. and RF can max both vit and str and both are providing dmg.. giving RF amazing DMG and super tanky. very good class..
confession here.. i been trying to trade my GL items for RF items or buy RF items for web bons for some time now.. if i can change my GL into RF ill change !
and remember i put GL in the S tier like RF as one of the better classes to play in pvp 🙂 -
2 hours ago, Arturs said:Play with the class, that you like the most by the gameplay.
Even a class with 3 stars in dmg can have higher dps than 5 stars dmg class, if you will have better equipment and buffs.Here we have a lot of changes in items and exclusive customs, so your items are the most important thing.
items are important. but theres is an undeniable gap between some classes.. that items can not make up for it.
also assuming 2 classes both maxed out in items fight each other the better class will win. i think there are plenty of good classes as i mentioned in my own personal opinion based list. all S classes are available.. but Lemuria/elf/RW will never be able to fight the other classes -
1 hour ago, Goku said:Summoner is a waste of time in PVP ???
Falsethats literally my own personal opinion and impression from the state of sega right now.
if you have your own opinion state it.. no one given this dude any list for some days so i shared my own list and opinion based on sega.
you are more than welcome to give your own list and make your own opinion.
we have curse summoner almost maxed and he cant fight my GL or mattoni SM or finix BK or van RF or mass MG .. therefor in my honest opinion summoner is not good in sega.
regardless of your " false " comment which doesnt even state any opinion list nor is helping the guy clearly is made as respond to me perhaps even to provoke or try prove me wrong instead of even helping the guy who asked help .. make a list based on your experience and opinion and help him 🙂 despite your comment as i said i think summoner is simply not equal to the above classes in pvp.. true enough its not as shitty as lemuria or elf or RW but it still cant fight the other classes so its not a class i would invest into for pvp. -
56 minutes ago, wran said:Oh that is awesome! Thank you so much!!!! 🙂
Now, question:
I know that the guide says "the balance is at max stats" but my MG does way less damage then my summoner. Both are around lvl 320 (literally just started). Why? 😞SM/GL/RF/BK/kundun/MG/IK = S tier in sega 🙂 each have some drawbacks some pros
if your goal is pvp you can not go wrong with these classes 🙂
slayer/DL is kinda A tier its ok.. but not strong like the classes i mentioned above the rest are kinda not worth playing
DL is tank and its important in CS but the dmg is low slayer is ok dmg ok survive but its not good like for example GL/SM/RF/BK/Kundun at max gear.
elf/summoner/gun/lemuria are waste of time in pvp.. elf is ok for buff. .
GL = if max agi+str = good dmg very low hp but really good dmg.. but have very small range
if max str + vit dmg is meh.. meh meh .. . but good hp still bad range.. but if using sockety good reflect ag drain buff is amazing in tank version
SM: probably highest dmg good def because of barrier in solo.. good range and teleport
but in my opinion if you give GL barrier from SM in party GL can be stronger.. but SM range is very good tp amazing
MG= MG is actually very high dmg and decent def id say its like GL but without ag drain but more dmg and more range and aoe in return
RF : high dmg and very tanky you max vit + str very strong 1v1 char
BK: dont need to say much? kinda good all around class.. good hp good dmg but range is kinda bad like GL
Kundun.. good in group pvp but not so good alone big aoe and dmg
illusion knight seems solid all around good range good dmg good def -
9 minutes ago, -TheEnd- said:I think streamers have norm salary for their streams. And yes - i donate much more then you. Just go and stream - what a problem?
you play in sega? nope nor anymore atleast.
also i kinda doubt you donate more than me.. (maybe in the long run with all servers you played here.. then possible)
either way.. stream have negative effect on older servers and its a fact whatever you think it does or not. . and soon it will have on angel once the ratio between web bons and serv bons change -
1 minute ago, Skedi said:go stream then and go get 650 + ur donates..
as u said 6500 u can get alot where are all those things
just please bro..
u talk without having idea about whats happening..is all ur imagination..
oww finix got gold fenrir= he bought with web bons
oww mass got 1 apple=he bought with web bons..
6500 web is a fact 🙂 based on your own numbers.. nah why would i even consider donate ?
i know exactly what happening you are just trying to cover evertthing up with some bs so that you can continue get ahead
but i wonder who will you fight when all leave? anyways enough have good day
maybe you should go and try donate then and ill go stream? sounds fair to me- 1
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3 minutes ago, Skedi said:since u know who sold me the wings (BlackAdam) ask him to show u who made the transfer on hes account for the wings|
my account name is skedi.
let me correct it then about w4 coz that was missspell coz i meant w3 which i bought from caytien 800web bons. he can confirm thatand we can wait here for blackadam to post the name of acount who transfered the bons for my w4 on hes account.. and then i wanna see ur answer again 😄
enough is enough.. you said yoiur self 650 per week is what you get x 2.5 months? thats 10 weeks thats 6500 web bons 🙂 you can turn it around however you want.. but we all know what you can buy in sega for 6500 web bons.
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2 minutes ago, Skedi said:let me correct u here..because u see what u want..
w4= web bons from ptaq (he paid for those wings so i still own him 2k web bons)
fo earings= are from massacre which i just use this week that he went vacations
gold fenrir= made (only bought 1 black fenrir for 200 bons)
demon=web bons from streaming
lyra= ptaq (is not mine.i use for hunting bosses coz we need arena points for creating demon for massacre)
lyra= ptaq (he bought both from blackwidow which i made the deal)
mux weapon= web bons from streaming
i bought 10k server bons by trading web bons from streaming?
when?
then why my w4 are still +13
my mux are +14
and my set is +13
where all those 10k server bons went?
i should hire u for my accountant since u know better than me what i bought and how much i spend.
so calculate again and let me know how many i got from streamin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣just moment ago in your own post you said you bought the wing 4 from web bons from stream now its not.. i see .. no point even continue say anything you said enough..
also i know who sold the wings if you remember. . anyways ill argue no more as it lead no where other than stress.. i basically quit already as we discussed yesterday
you can turn it around all you want but the end result is streaming system kills sega because people other than ones who willing to donate 1-2k euro dont see any chance of fighting. they simply leave .- 1
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1 hour ago, demolus said:Right. Stream is a nice addition to the game. But the truth is that it is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of bons people get for donate. How does a week of streaming compare to 50k donation bons?
Anyway, more bons on the server will increase liquidity on the market. So I think it's a good thing.
then show me my friend how you donate 50k ? i would loooooooovvveeeeee to see that 🙂 but now instead of false misleading claims that have nothing to do with the reality lets talk facts.. most people would normally donate between the 120-240 euro and thats it. and 240 euro is actually the drop in the ocean compared to stream bons 🙂 not the other way around..
but sure i want to see you donate 50k and i will shut up. show me how you do it and then everything is good
also you are very wrong.. web bons does the oppsite effect as liqudity 🙂 allow me to explain so you can follow
items mostly comes from lottery . . but now in sega no one use lottery because there are already alot of items to buy for web bons on market from heros who left the server.. if you give streamers alot of web bons and they buy items from heros for web bons.. they do not increase the amount of items on the market they reduce it..
because there was char/set for sale and it been sold now its not availabvle anymore? get it?
if you want to increase liquidity you need to give streamers lottery coins.. they use lottery coins win muxes and FO weapoins but they dont need them.. what will they do? put them on the market for fair price for new players to buy.. see? there was no mux on the market and now there is one.. increase liquidity 🙂 -
2 hours ago, Skedi said:who stream on angel and play on sega?
from sega as far as i know only me and massacre are streaming
if u think that in 1 month streaming u can get at same point as u then u playing different game..
sorry bro but i am streaming 2.5 months now everyday and most of my things i did it by hunting alone and not by the bons..
with bons i got w4/1 mux/1 black fenrir/1 demon/1 dk helm
from 2 months streaming
if that mean that we are on same gear just bcoz i spend streaming bons then idk what can i saylets talk facts here
1: who stream and play sega, you. mass , mattoni , Kanade used to in the start but it was less impact then as it is less impact in angl right now
with that said lets also mention there that you mass and mattoni are only strong players in your guild (make sense considering you guys are streaming right? makes my point)
ill go further and say .. aside from me and van who donated ALOOT more than the avrage donate you guys are also the only strong players in sega server (very much balanced system the stream right? dont give huge advantage at all)
you say me.. but im not the "avrage donator" avrage donate come donate 120-240 euro? where does it gets him in compare to streamer ? nowhere he can put 240 euro and he will not be able to have a tiny chance against streamer.
2 : most of my things i did it by hunting alone and not by the bons.." allow me to correct you and clear the false impression you give here and put some facts
wings 4 : web bons from stream
earrings FO : web bons from stream
fenrir : web bons from stream
demon: web bons stream
lyra : web bons from stream
punishment : web bons from stream
mux weapon: web.. stream
also bought 10+k server bons with web bons from stream
but it seems you forget about all that..
which allow you easily to buy all jewels tocas etocas and armor parts to make set
conclusion ? you literally did not make anything not a single item by farming alone as you claim.. every single piece of gear that you own is directly or indirectly bought thought the stream web bons.. either directly by the web bons or converted to server bons at ratio higher than 1:2 . so the very least be honest about it. there many people who speak how you brag that you bought everything for free only from stream bons. 🙂
the fact is fact.. the streaming is harmful system for the older servers where there are items for sale for web bons and where ratio between web/serv bons is high.
few of my guild want to quit because of that and some were about to donate to upgrade their items to +15 and now they dont want to do that becuase of that system. . so yes i can speak and say its harmful -
2 minutes ago, Positive said:Why you should care about how streamers spend web bonuses? I think it's not your business man 🙂 Take care of yourself.
Ofc i care, why did i bother invest 1-2k euro from my hard earned money on sega just so now literally every person who want to strean despite if he have any views at all gets to the same point or higher within a month of streaming. Already streamers in sega out bid anyone over paying for w/e cause its easy free bons 🙂 anyways enough is enough do w/e you guys think is right.
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On 3/16/2023 at 11:36 PM, Shanahan said:Most of the streamers are playing on the new server. You are playing on Sega. What is the conversation about? @noywk1991
They stream on angel then use on sega where web bons and server bons are at ratio of 1:2.5 stream 1-2 months buy you maxed out char in sega. Continue stream and you can always out bid donator . .
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sell in Sega = web bons
top GL
https://muxlegend.com/en/index.php?page=info&act=getchar&name=HeathCliff&serv=server2
Set Socket level 400, seeds dd/ref = max level 6 10% dd 6% ref
seeds Def = level 5 (1 before max)
lottery demon / spirit/lion
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BK will have 150-180k hp with ML and 4th ML + swell
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11 hours ago, Goku said:Also disagree with that, even with full vit you always can die. The reason for this is because it creates better Dueling Gameplay. What do you actually want? Like a 1 hit MU Online?
- If you are tanky, you deal No Dmg.
- If you got killed by a tanky dude with full vit => You are Weak and you need Better Gear. That's it.you are wrong here in every single possible way o.O
unless you fight SM if you have max vit you will not die.. take a duel between maxed out gear BK VS GL.. neither of them can kill one another
take a duel between max slayer and BK / GL most likely neither will kill anyone maybe if para proc in the right moment ?
RF Vs GL likley they dont kill each other
you are also very wrong about the second statement " if you are tanky you deal no damage" really????? you suree about that?
1: SM ????? tankiest class in game with the highest dmg in game???
2: BK tank and good dmg ? (still cant kill equally geared max vit classes)
3: GL ? max str + agi for speed speed on all items 29k vit tanky and dmg is maxed almost
4: slayer ? you played it you know agi does nothing for slayer nor does ene.. you max str agi for speed rest into vit.. with right items easily max vit 🙂
5: RF ? max str + vit ? ?? very high dmg very high tankiness?
you need more examples or thats enough?
"If you got killed by a tanky dude with full vit => You are Weak and you need Better Gear. That's it."
always the excuse here need better gear?? but few of us including my self are maxed out 🙂 mux weapon + 15 mux shield both pvp option
wings +15 FO earrings +15 Lion +15 lottery demon/spirit + socket set seeds level 6 so on so on.. everrything is totally maxed
and nah problem is not dying to tanky dude with full vit (only SM ) problem is we dont die .. you talk about 1 hit pvp but in reality aside from SM we cant kill each other but ofc SM can kill everyone in 1 second while also being among the tankiest classes.
you make claims but you should prove it.. especially as a senate. right now.. most classes dont benefit enough from their secondary stat to give up vit..
GL will make str + vit
BK will make str + vit
DL will make str + vit
slayer will make str + vit
SM makes ene + vit
so on so on.. all classes take just enough agi for speed and move on to vit. and there are enough points 🙂
my GL need around 12k agi with max items , with bought stat and everything you can get 74k? + 4k from ML
right now my stats are 33k str 12k agi (more form all stat) 29k vit all classes have it similar now -
11 hours ago, Goku said:Pretty sure SM has lower HP per Vit point than other classes..
it does but not by alot. BK/GL gets around 2.5 per vit SM get around 2 per vit
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6 minutes ago, Much said:SM used to have like 38k max hp, but than top donaters started playing sm and now he has as much hp as everyone else
it look like almost all classes have like similar HP 2.5-3Hp per 1 point of vit.. not only its bad balance because theres no reason SM and dmg dealer classes esp with long 7 range and teleport and barrier will have similar HP to melee range who are " Tank"
i also think DL who have very high absorb rate from horse could have his drawback as lower HP and then maybe DLs will invest more into str+ene and make good dmg
in general all classes vit should be nerfed because right now vit too strong everyone attempt to max vit and all classes are "tank"
additionally HP per class should be reworked and be different long range classes should have less HP per vit.
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for weapon mux weapon is always the goal 🙂
for set ... either grade 120 amor +15 or with the recent changes ruud set should be attractive enough offering alot of dmg while still looking like decent DD