cruel 18 Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM Hello, My suggestion is very clear: Make VIP Buff 10% Dmg & Absorb as it was, or decrease it's price to 15 Euro/month to be in-line with every other major game out there! 24 Euro for that is over the top, I mean players get 5% for free from Guild Quest... I'm sure you have noticed by now the VIP Sales have dropped by more than 50% - and no, it's not that the players that had VIP stopped playing, they're still there most of them, it's just not worth anymore especially since the Zen Problem and LAG FEST and too low of a Buff to make any difference for the amount paid... Do you want my €120 Euros for VIP on 2 Accounts or should I go buy myself the Diablo 4 Collector's Edition instead? With just a couple of players like me you lose over a thousand Euros/month - those money would come in handy to pay for anything server related or just take it yourself and go at the beach... Make a choice, even tho I can afford it, I'm not willing to pay like an idiot double than it's worth! Edit: I apologize if I have made anyone feeling unconfortable with my ranting in my last post on this subject - my intention has never been to flame on anyone but I also demand respect and decency, not to be responded like I'm some kind of idiot, I hope you can understand that... Best Regards! Cruel 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narti 13 Posted Friday at 01:42 AM I have said many times that the prices for this server are ridiculously high and its losing people every day but they never change anything. Pvp options, add decrease, add exe opt, (upgrade +14+15) , vip, All cost bonuses and they are expensive 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMattoni 38 Posted Friday at 01:43 AM Totally Agree, Bring back 10% vip buff, with streaming possibility it is not pay 2 win as people used to say anymore, anyone can stream, earn 400 web bon for 1 week and buy vip for 1 month!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ma4o0 8 Posted Friday at 03:11 AM Agree 100%.Talk before more time.not reason yet. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuanphan29 14 Posted Friday at 05:16 AM Bring back 10% vip buff and increase the price from 400 bon to 3k bon, don't let users use stream bon for vip free, force them donate, or pay sv bon for streaming, don't make web bon easy to get, @Admins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nvquoc916 9 Posted Friday at 05:56 AM 37 minutes ago, tuanphan29 said: 7 hours ago, cruel said: Hello, My suggestion is very clear: Make VIP Buff 10% Dmg & Absorb as it was, or decrease it's price to 15 Euro/month to be in-line with every other major game out there! 24 Euro for that is over the top, I mean players get 5% for free from Guild Quest... I'm sure you have noticed by now the VIP Sales have dropped by more than 50% - and no, it's not that the players that had VIP stopped playing, they're still there most of them, it's just not worth anymore especially since the Zen Problem and LAG FEST and too low of a Buff to make any difference for the amount paid... Do you want my €120 Euros for VIP on 2 Accounts or should I go buy myself the Diablo 4 Collector's Edition instead? With just a couple of players like me you lose over a thousand Euros/month - those money would come in handy to pay for anything server related or just take it yourself and go at the beach... Make a choice, even tho I can afford it, I'm not willing to pay like an idiot double than it's worth! Best Regards! Cruel reduce vip price with more reward for rr gonna make server busier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positive 47 Posted Friday at 08:26 AM 10 hours ago, cruel said: Hello, My suggestion is very clear: Make VIP Buff 10% Dmg & Absorb as it was, or decrease it's price to 15 Euro/month to be in-line with every other major game out there! 24 Euro for that is over the top, I mean players get 5% for free from Guild Quest... I'm sure you have noticed by now the VIP Sales have dropped by more than 50% - and no, it's not that the players that had VIP stopped playing, they're still there most of them, it's just not worth anymore especially since the Zen Problem and LAG FEST and too low of a Buff to make any difference for the amount paid... Do you want my €120 Euros for VIP on 2 Accounts or should I go buy myself the Diablo 4 Collector's Edition instead? With just a couple of players like me you lose over a thousand Euros/month - those money would come in handy to pay for anything server related or just take it yourself and go at the beach... Make a choice, even tho I can afford it, I'm not willing to pay like an idiot double than it's worth! Best Regards! Cruel Buy Diablo IV 1 1 1 Positive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piptiwam 7 Posted Friday at 09:17 AM 48 minutes ago, Positive said: Buy Diablo IV Positive, i observed that you are just a troll, if you can not or don't know the answer, don't act like a bravado, oh yeah your a senate? who cares? you keep pointing fingers did you know that? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
android17 1 Posted Friday at 09:46 AM 28 minutes ago, piptiwam said: Positive, i observed that you are just a troll, if you can not or don't know the answer, don't act like a bravado, oh yeah your a senate? who cares? you keep pointing fingers did you know that? hes forumquestmaker, relax xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ma4o0 8 Posted Friday at 09:57 AM You have to Move Best regards Positive 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piptiwam 7 Posted Friday at 11:06 AM 1 hour ago, android17 said: hes forumquestmaker, relax xD exactly, the way he answers, as if he is the boss lol, he is just a questmaster and not even a senate so he better act like questmaster and not a troll 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nvquoc916 9 Posted Friday at 11:20 AM positive but always answer like a negative guy =]] 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positive 47 Posted Friday at 01:28 PM 2 hours ago, piptiwam said: exactly, the way he answers, as if he is the boss lol, he is just a questmaster and not even a senate so he better act like questmaster and not a troll Well. You see that better from your point 🙂 Positive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciferace 21 Posted Friday at 01:33 PM 4 minutes ago, Positive said: Well. You see that better from your point 🙂 It's good point. You're server "staff" so why make pointless comment on a legitimate suggestion topic? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narti 13 Posted Friday at 02:57 PM On 5/26/2023 at 9:33 AM, luciferace said: It's good point. You're server "staff" so why make pointless comment on a legitimate suggestion topic? Because they dont care xd I bet that are going to say is all perfect and not change anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruel 18 Posted Friday at 04:23 PM 8 hours ago, Positive said: Buy Diablo IV My friend, it was a Rhetorical Question to make a point. Inevitable people must make choices in life, we cannot have everything so must compare and choose... @Positive If you weren't a Forum Questmaker and you'd have to pay for your BON to get VIP, what would you choose with your €50 Euros/month - VIP on 2 Accounts or subscription to Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, Disney+, Paramount+, Discovery+ and so on?! The point is with discounted offers you can have all that for the money, therefore VIP is Very Expensive for what you get for your money! (again it's rhetorical, just example to make the point we don't have to debate offtopic) If I find it not worth it and I'm from a western EU country, then what should players from less fortunate places say? They probably have to work for 2-3 days to earn that amount of money, therefore my suggestion either increase the Buff back to 10% or decrease the price to €15 it's very legitimate! I'm not asking for an increase to 50% or make it €5, just to have a decent value for what it is paid... From a business point of view having more people that donate is the goal, if you don't have income you cannot pay for Server and Website Hosting, improved hardware and increased bandwidth, game server-side and client-side fixes, any other bug fixes, game or website related, advertising everywhere, pay the staff, testers, translators, streamers, and so on so on... The SMART decision for any business is to have as many satisfied clients as possible and not be greedy about it - 100 payments of small amounts means more money than 10 payments of large amounts - it's economy 1 on 1. That is how our society works, plus with more happy customers you not only have higher income but you have more alive and busy Server! You've started a great Gaming Project here hands down, now keep us happy and to continue to support this awesome server! Make the Smart decision about VIP that probably 99% of your player base agrees with. And fix (if it's up to you and not IGCN) the problems we discover while testing on the live server... We test everything without any payment from our own time, as well as reporting back the bugs and writting on the forums, make suggestions and everything else because WE LOVE THIS GAME and YOUR GAMING PROJECT, DO NOT LOSE US, THE COMMUNITY OF SUPPORTERS PLEASE! Best Regards! Cruel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salupa 3 Posted Friday at 08:50 PM And I'm against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwerty456 27 Posted Friday at 09:35 PM maybe Ivan has to add a condition when recruiting QuestMaker that is at least a primary school graduate 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positive 47 Posted Saturday at 12:39 AM 7 hours ago, cruel said: My friend, it was a Rhetorical Question to make a point. Inevitable people must make choices in life, we cannot have everything so must compare and choose... @Positive If you weren't a Forum Questmaker and you'd have to pay for your BON to get VIP, what would you choose with your €50 Euros/month - VIP on 2 Accounts or subscription to Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, Disney+, Paramount+, Discovery+ and so on?! The point is with discounted offers you can have all that for the money, therefore VIP is Very Expensive for what you get for your money! (again it's rhetorical, just example to make the point we don't have to debate offtopic) If I find it not worth it and I'm from a western EU country, then what should players from less fortunate places say? They probably have to work for 2-3 days to earn that amount of money, therefore my suggestion either increase the Buff back to 10% or decrease the price to €15 it's very legitimate! I'm not asking for an increase to 50% or make it €5, just to have a decent value for what it is paid... From a business point of view having more people that donate is the goal, if you don't have income you cannot pay for Server and Website Hosting, improved hardware and increased bandwidth, game server-side and client-side fixes, any other bug fixes, game or website related, advertising everywhere, pay the staff, testers, translators, streamers, and so on so on... The SMART decision for any business is to have as many satisfied clients as possible and not be greedy about it - 100 payments of small amounts means more money than 10 payments of large amounts - it's economy 1 on 1. That is how our society works, plus with more happy customers you not only have higher income but you have more alive and busy Server! You've started a great Gaming Project here hands down, now keep us happy and to continue to support this awesome server! Make the Smart decision about VIP that probably 99% of your player base agrees with. And fix (if it's up to you and not IGCN) the problems we discover while testing on the live server... We test everything without any payment from our own time, as well as reporting back the bugs and writting on the forums, make suggestions and everything else because WE LOVE THIS GAME and YOUR GAMING PROJECT, DO NOT LOSE US, THE COMMUNITY OF SUPPORTERS PLEASE! Best Regards! Cruel Okay, let's talk about how this % works, which is what all the hype is about here. 5% or 10%? I'm for 5%. Why? Simple 🙂 When we tested it in pvp sometimes enough 2% to significantly affect the outcome of the battle. And now imagine the situation when the Alpha player and the Beta player are fighting with each other. Player Alpha has a buff from the vip of 10% and 5% of the guild. The Beta player only has a guild buff 5%. 10-2 the Alpha player wins due to such a powerful buff, leaving the Beta player no chance. All assuming +- equal stats and equipment. All this was done for the benefit of the majority of players who can not buy a vip. Vip has a lot of goodies, and give such an advantage in pvp balance will be wrong. Next, the question about price. I think the cost of vip as much as possible acceptable. Any player can afford it if he wants to. If you reduce the cost, the entire server will be full of VIPs and the sense of the system will fall away. Yes, I agree with the fact that reducing the price you get more money, but with low price of a VIP server will turn into the same crap, which you can see in mmo ratings. This is consistent with my work, out of the game, when our company is not trying to sell products cheaper and earn more (allegedly) We sell our services at twice the price of others and still having a high status in the market and good recognition. So my subjective opinion is that VIP is what it is now and should be! Regards. Spoiler 3 hours ago, qwerty456 said: maybe Ivan has to add a condition when recruiting QuestMaker that is at least a primary school graduate You can ask him for sure 🙂 2 3 Positive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ma4o0 8 Posted Saturday at 04:29 AM Enought talking shit Positive Admins administrators lets make Vote system before change .before update and we ll see players want it or not.Your updates changes all for players.Vip 5 % and so low.better no buy this.How we play before when 10 %?. -----You Have to Move---- 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
