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how works chaos machine's % in MUX Legend

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I received a lot of messages, that ALL ITEMS WAS BURNED in chaos machine. So, i decided to make this topic and close this question forever. 

This is a list of all combinations in 12 hours period. 

 
 
 
 
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[00:06:16] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Fail 91 / 75 Money : 865087830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:06:21] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Fail 75 / 75 Money : 863027830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:06:27] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 16 / 75 Money : 860967830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:06:29] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 63 / 75 Money : 856847830-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[00:06:38] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Fail 87 / 75 Money : 854787830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:06:44] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Fail 86 / 75 Money : 852727830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[00:06:52] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Fail 82 / 75 Money : 850667830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:06:57] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 7 / 75 Money : 848607830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[00:06:59] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 38 / 75 Money : 844487830-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0 
[00:07:05] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 51 / 75 Money : 842427830-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[00:07:07] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 3 / 75 Money : 838307830-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0  
[00:17:19] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [d3am0ns] CBMix Fail 94 / 75 Money : 525331353-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[00:19:21] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [d3am0ns] CBMix Fail 81 / 75 Money : 523255153-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[00:47:43] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NaujitO] CBMix Success 21 / 75 Money : 916171268-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[00:47:46] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NaujitO] CBMix Success 50 / 75 Money : 912051268-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0  
[00:53:46] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [OpineL] CBMix Fail 95 / 75 Money : 1435751834-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[00:58:06] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Gucci228] CBMix Success 13 / 75 Money : 85862867-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[00:59:19] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [y0ver] CBMix Success 36 / 75 Money : 900065802-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[01:08:20] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Success 74 / 75 Money : 1405199497-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[01:08:25] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Fail 89 / 75 Money : 1401079497-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0    
[01:34:57] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [iamHerione] CBMix Success 14 / 75 Money : 251580547-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0  
[01:50:15] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Success 43 / 75 Money : 1444873897-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[01:50:18] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Success 24 / 75 Money : 1440753897-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0 
[01:50:22] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Success 68 / 75 Money : 1434573897-6180000 [12], CharmRate : 0
[01:50:25] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Success 49 / 70 Money : 1426333897-8240000 [13], CharmRate : 0
[01:50:30] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Soida] CBMix Fail 96 / 70 Money : 1416033897-10300000 [14], CharmRate : 0 
[02:16:10] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [OpineL] CBMix Fail 84 / 75 Money : 100025543-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[02:50:05] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [OpineL] CBMix Fail, Charm of Chaos Assembly Used, 57 / 50 Money : 191433331-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[02:51:46] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [JustNobody] CBMix Success 54 / 75 Money : 114794140-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[02:53:41] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [OpineL] CBMix Fail, Charm of Chaos Assembly Used, 89 / 50 Money : 189373331-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0     
[04:07:51] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NicSlayer] CBMix Success 35 / 50 Money : 582482562-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[04:10:43] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NicSlayer] CBMix Success 50 / 75 Money : 577772412-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[04:22:10] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [KuCuKCoNyy] CBMix Success 35 / 75 Money : 974558603-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[04:22:13] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [KuCuKCoNyy] CBMix Success 66 / 75 Money : 970438603-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0 
[05:03:50] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Alice] CBMix Success 18 / 75 Money : 554609530-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[05:03:53] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Alice] CBMix Success 49 / 75 Money : 550489530-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0 
[05:32:17] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [0ooooooo0] CBMix Fail 82 / 75 Money : 574623176-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[07:11:33] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [BobMarley] CBMix Success 34 / 75 Money : 1047522852-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0  
[07:11:49] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [BobMarley] CBMix Fail 93 / 75 Money : 1043402852-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0 
[07:18:39] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ZeroFat] CBMix Fail 92 / 75 Money : 1011872069-2000000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[07:19:04] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ZeroFat] CBMix Success 22 / 75 Money : 1009859269-2000000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[07:19:30] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ZeroFat] CBMix Fail 75 / 50 Money : 1007852869-2000000 [10], CharmRate : 0 
[07:31:17] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Ramza] CBMix Success 53 / 75 Money : 924202079-2000000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[07:32:07] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Ramza] CBMix Success 11 / 75 Money : 920202079-4000000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[07:38:42] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Ramza] CBMix Fail 99 / 75 Money : 914182879-6000000 [12], CharmRate : 0
[08:02:32] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [HNNH] CBMix Fail 98 / 75 Money : 182762409-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[08:03:21] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [HNNH] CBMix Success 50 / 75 Money : 180702409-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[08:03:24] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [HNNH] CBMix Fail 80 / 75 Money : 176582409-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[09:31:36] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Valerian] CBMix Success 51 / 75 Money : 1111781519-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[09:38:46] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Valerian] CBMix Success 40 / 75 Money : 1109640019-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[09:44:36] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ElfBuffer] CBMix Success 34 / 75 Money : 1726677397-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[09:44:39] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ElfBuffer] CBMix Success 53 / 75 Money : 1722557397-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[09:51:00] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Valerian] CBMix Success 34 / 75 Money : 1107515719-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[09:53:37] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Valerian] CBMix Fail 85 / 75 Money : 1105397819-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[09:59:54] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Fail 84 / 75 Money : 844872838-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:02:33] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Valerian] CBMix Fail 75 / 75 Money : 1090965019-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:11:31] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TarzanBoy] CBMix Success 25 / 75 Money : 1997914400-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:11:33] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TarzanBoy] CBMix Success 43 / 75 Money : 1993794400-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[10:17:05] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TarzanBoy] CBMix Success 55 / 75 Money : 1991621700-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:17:08] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TarzanBoy] CBMix Success 68 / 75 Money : 1987501700-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[10:20:13] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Success 46 / 75 Money : 833070038-6180000 [12], CharmRate : 0
[10:20:15] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Success 58 / 70 Money : 824830038-8240000 [13], CharmRate : 0
[10:21:17] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Success 73 / 75 Money : 822718538-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:21:19] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Success 9 / 75 Money : 818598538-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[10:21:29] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [TheBill] CBMix Fail 97 / 75 Money : 816538538-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:28:30] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [unibot] CBMix Success 49 / 75 Money : 1231305046-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:28:44] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [unibot] CBMix Success 57 / 75 Money : 1227185046-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[10:44:53] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [Poor] CBMix Fail, Charm of Chaos Assembly Used, 91 / 75 Money : 1234975361-2000000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[10:59:21] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NicSlayer] CBMix Fail 54 / 50 Money : 144572721-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[11:01:35] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [NicSlayer] CBMix Success 9 / 75 Money : 140011321-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[11:27:47] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [HNNH] CBMix Success 42 / 50 Money : 220304009-2060000 [10], CharmRate : 0
[11:27:51] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [HNNH] CBMix Success 23 / 50 Money : 216184009-4120000 [11], CharmRate : 0
[11:42:56] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ZeroFat] CBMix Success 3 / 75 Money : 184507441-4000000 [11], CharmRate : 0

Now we can look closer, how it's works. For example this case:
[11:42:56] [Enchant UI Mix][PlusItemLevel] [ZeroFat] CBMix Success 3 / 75 Money : 184507441-4000000 [11], CharmRate : 0
The chance of success on +11 is 75%. If there will be a random number lower then 75 -> success. Higher -> fail. 

Wanna try your luck? You can use this website. Just set up digits from 1 to 100, and choose 10 digits for example. 

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So here you can see 93, 77, 99, 92, 96. This means, that in this case in-game -> 5 items from 10 will be burned. Maybe, that was you? The last 3 items were burned. You going crazy because of this, left the game, server shit, admin shit, i hate myself and i want to die. But next guy going to Goblin and.. 

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10 success in the row! And even if there will be a 50% change - only 2 items will fail. 

We can take for example also 40% of success for 3 level wings.

  • In the first case, where 5 items will be failed on +10, you will receive 7 fails of 3 level wings.
  • In the second case, where all items will be succeeded on +10, 5 fails of 3 level wings.

So, one player can fail 4 blood castle tickets from 10, but then someone will make 3 level wings 3 pairs in a row like a boss

 

So I hope, that you understand, how works chaos machine. 

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Guest d3am0ns

So this system is absolutely bad, because it doesn't follows independent characters. This system is fully dependents on all players. So all the percentage what chaos machine show is wrong. 

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18 minutes ago, guest d3am0ns said:

so this system is absolutely bad, because it doesn't follows independent characters. this system is fully dependents on all players. so all the percentage what chaos machine show is wrong. 

this system works on every MUX Legend server. in other words

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Last Time I failed 6 3rd wings and only 1 success , after wings I tried 4 fenrirs and all of them failed as well. Unlucky as hell, but I'm to add some more % of chance to make combinations easier , don't forget that we need to start making 4th wings as well. yesterday we failed 4 times to up lvl3 wings from +9 to +11... I dont know it's my opinion, we must have fun on the server, if we have 10% of success instead of 50%... game is becoming booring as fuck 🙂

Okay lower combinations will give server time to be active, but some players can give up and it will be like 30% of players who will. it's my opinion maybe not everyone share it but i would like to have more % of combinations : ) we have anyway lots of things to combine, collect and improve; like ertels , pentagrams , socket sets , ruud sets , wings..... 

 

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Guest PhenomenaL

It's not pvp server, its more farm in 8windows and burn everyday server 🤣

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Guest Porcentaje

Si , la verdad para ser un servidor PVP, deberia  tener  un porcentaje mas alto, son muchas cosas que se tiene que subir, cuesta bastante conseguir los item. O es como un ADM dijo una vez en un post sobre la quest de inventario, que solo era para pay to win . quizas sea lo mismo para subir los item.

Seria bueno que le suban el Porcentaje, pero es decicion de los adm. 

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By logs i see, that % works fine, it depends only on your luck. 
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Imagine, that i have upped % of success rate for 3 Lvl wings till 90%. In this random case, from 10 attempts, 4 will be failed. Last 3 in row. 90% chance but you will lose 3 wings in a row. 90%. This is how works the chaos machine. The same way it's working on every server. 

And in the end, don't forget, that we don't sell any items like this. So everyone in equal opportunity. 

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Guest sanii

what do we give these values according to? i dont understand the chaos machine in the game.

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System generate a random value. So it is depend on your luck, and everyone are equal.

 

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4 hours ago, Guest sanii said:

what do we give these values according to? i dont understand the chaos machine in the game.

Example: There is an 80% success rate. The system would roll one random number from 1-100. If the number is 80 and under, the combination succeeds. If the number rolled is in between 81-100, then you fail. Success rate=80/100=80%. Fail rate=20/100=20%. 

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Guest sanii

ok, how can i know it's going to succeed?

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You can't know. It's chance based, it's luck. High risk=high reward. 

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Guest Alpha

Just for future, try to fail 2 DS tickets in a row and mix after that... 

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Guest Just another player

Okay here is the real scenario and question:

i go to the chaos machine, put 1 item for regular comb and success rate is 90%,

  • 1st try: 1 min on machine: fail
  • 2nd try: 2 mins on machine: fail
  • 3rd try: 3 mins on machine: fail

u say chaos machine generates 10 random numbers as basis for success rate, so the question is: What is the refresh rate of chaos machine generating these random numbers? Are these numbers gonna last only a minute? 2mins? 3mins? until it generates another set of numbers?

from my perspective, 90% success rate means i only fail 1 out of 10, meaning if I fail on my first, then i should succeed on my remaining 9 right? But chaos machine algorithm can mean 5 fails out of 10 even with 90% success rate. Meaning success rate doesn't mean anything in this game. Its designed to keep you in-game and get ripped XD

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Becose u failed 3 items in a row with 90% does not mean its not 90%, mabye next 20 times its success?
that is not how RNG works.


flipping a coin is 50% but sometimes you get tail more than once in a row right.

but when u try that 90% combination 10000 times, you see it evens out.

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3 часа назад, pokezzi сказал:

Becose u failed 3 items in a row with 90% does not mean its not 90%, mabye next 20 times its success?
that is not how RNG works.


flipping a coin is 50% but sometimes you get tail more than once in a row right.

but when u try that 90% combination 10000 times, you see it evens out.

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Guest Vit

Bullshit random system either there is no 75%

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How often is this number generated? Is it generated and saved somewhere for a period of time or it is generated for each event on the server, for each chaos combination, for each jewel added?

Thanks!

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6 hours ago, francky said:

How often is this number generated? Is it generated and saved somewhere for a period of time or it is generated for each event on the server, for each chaos combination, for each jewel added?

Thanks!

Random number generates each time, when you working with the chaos machine, drop the jewel on the item, even when you killed a monster, there will be a generation of what kind of item will drop (excellent, "special drop" like jewels and event parts, basic item and what kind of, their options, will be luck or not e.t.c)
 

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