Offlvl Buffs/Active Buffs NON PVP MAPS

[luxrio1 103]

So i was confused today, this guy HoLietNa, everytime he died against me in Legends Arena, he warped away and came back full buffed. So i checked once he died and found this.
All buffers on non PVP map.

Normally if you Join Stadium/Arena whatever all Buffs are gone and you need to rebuff urself in Arena/Stadium " Legends Arena ". So people wont abuse such thing as logging in all buffers in offlevel while others have to Control them manually. Best example me, with my Elf and RF chillin in LA buffing me. This guy has a whole Squad ready on another Map and doesnt have to worry about, people killing its Buffers. While i have to CTRL + S and use my Buffs with Brain.

My Suggestion, this aint an Report or a Ban situation, i think this feature should come back where u HAVE to HAVE ur Buffers with you at all risk. Look at the gear of his Buffers.. SM in apollo set.. but doesnt matter coz Buff will be the same as on a Top SM since all the changes and nerfs to it. If he would join LA with those, they would be 1 shot while my Buffers are fully maxed EQ so they can survive a little while, while buffing.

So, feature to remove all buffs once moved to Legends Arena should come back. Otherwise no point to even go and farm buffer Equiup if i dcan bring them naked to aida 2 and let them buff my ass 

Any Opinion will be gladly heard.

Peace.

[Farvetto 54]

It is not unfair, its DISHONORABLE

[Naive 56]

14 minutes ago, luxrio1 said:

So i was confused today, this guy HoLietNa, everytime he died against me in Legends Arena, he warped away and came back full buffed. So i checked once he died and found this.
All buffers on non PVP map.

Normally if you Join Stadium/Arena whatever all Buffs are gone and you need to rebuff urself in Arena/Stadium " Legends Arena ". So people wont abuse such thing as logging in all buffers in offlevel while others have to Control them manually. Best example me, with my Elf and RF chillin in LA buffing me. This guy has a whole Squad ready on another Map and doesnt have to worry about, people killing its Buffers. While i have to CTRL + S and use my Buffs with Brain.

My Suggestion, this aint an Report or a Ban situation, i think this feature should come back where u HAVE to HAVE ur Buffers with you at all risk. Look at the gear of his Buffers.. SM in apollo set.. but doesnt matter coz Buff will be the same as on a Top SM since all the changes and nerfs to it. If he would join LA with those, they would be 1 shot while my Buffers are fully maxed EQ so they can survive a little while, while buffing.

So, feature to remove all buffs once moved to Legends Arena should come back. Otherwise no point to even go and farm buffer Equiup if i dcan bring them naked to aida 2 and let them buff my ass 

Any Opinion will be gladly heard.

Peace.

I completely agree with you. It’s definitely unfair when players can keep their buffs from a non-PvP map like Aida2 or Lost Tower 6 and just warp back fully buffed, especially in a place like Legends Arena where everyone is supposed to be on a level playing field. This strategy removes a key part of the challenge—managing your buffs and protecting your buffers.

I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense. If buffs could reset only when warping from non-PvP maps, it would prevent this type of abuse without affecting players who are just navigating between other PvP areas. That way, everyone’s on the same footing, needing to keep their buffers close and protected if they want the advantage.

[luxrio1 103]

1 minute ago, cyber_s said:

I completely agree with you. It’s definitely unfair when players can keep their buffs from a non-PvP map like Aida2 or Lost Tower 6 and just warp back fully buffed, especially in a place like Legends Arena where everyone is supposed to be on a level playing field. This strategy removes a key part of the challenge—managing your buffs and protecting your buffers.

I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense. If buffs could reset only when warping from non-PvP maps, it would prevent this type of abuse without affecting players who are just navigating between other PvP areas. That way, everyone’s on the same footing, needing to keep their buffers close and protected if they want the advantage.

Well said!

[Devil 326]

Ok, I read all above. I'm partly agree with all said. It is unfair that he is warping to his buffers, buffing up, coming back with less lag, coz he doesn't open 3 clients, just using 1 client and makes the game less laggy and etc. All above said are correct, agree and respect. Here is the problem, what makes U not to do the same? :D Why don't u put ur buffers on non-PvP maps and warp back and blah blah.. anyways, u got my point. 

Again, for me also it is uncomfortable to do the same every time, warp to, warp back and etc. but the thing is, it is not forbidden and can do any)

[kenttran1 84]

from x200 Wods guild do it eveyday they do seam, if Holietna got problem so from x200 crazyone should be too

[luxrio1 103]

18 minutes ago, Devil said:

Ok, I read all above. I'm partly agree with all said. It is unfair that he is warping to his buffers, buffing up, coming back with less lag, coz he doesn't open 3 clients, just using 1 client and makes the game less laggy and etc. All above said are correct, agree and respect. Here is the problem, what makes U not to do the same? :D Why don't u put ur buffers on non-PvP maps and warp back and blah blah.. anyways, u got my point. 

Again, for me also it is uncomfortable to do the same every time, warp to, warp back and etc. but the thing is, it is not forbidden and can do any)

Sure i never said it is forbidden or something. But imagine whole server puts his buffers in Aida 2, why even care about farming gear for ur buffers than? So everyone focuses on 1 Main char and 4 other trash chars, except Elf who needs ruud set. Obv we all could do the same BUT as Naive said, if u wanna have an advantage with buffs, you should take risk of getting ur buffers killed to consideration. Otherwise its simply cheating, move to map in 1 sec and move back the other sec. Its not like Buffs are gone within 10 seconds, he can stay there for the whole Boss fights if he doesnt Die.

It takes away the main feature of having Buffers at a cost of grinding and makign them " good " to keep em by bosses or as near as possible. I dont think u want 100+ buffers in 1 place xD like Aida 2.

And also, the way he uses Offlevel for Buffs.. u think he will Offlevel Buffers in LA ? 

[luxrio1 103]

3 minutes ago, kenttran1 said:

from x200 Wods guild do it eveyday they do seam, if Holietna got problem so from x200 crazyone should be too

Im not saying he has Problems lol, it is not forbidden this is simply a suggestion bro :D

[kenttran1 84]

2 minutes ago, luxrio1 said:

Im not saying he has Problems lol, it is not forbidden this is simply a suggestion bro :D

you better try if this becomes law i will grab the wods and throw them in there, i seam you bro i move my bufff on LA and they put it on aida2 

[Naive 56]

Having 50+ buffers parked in Aida 2 could make things pretty chaotic! It’s not about wanting to restrict anyone unfairly but more about keeping that element of strategy and risk.
When buffers can be killed in the arena, you have to consider positioning and timing, which makes PvP more engaging.

I still believe resetting buffs when entering the Legends Arena from a non-PvP map would help keep the challenge balanced. We’re all here for a good fight, after all!

[Devil 326]

5 minutes ago, luxrio1 said:

Sure i never said it is forbidden or something. But imagine whole server puts his buffers in Aida 2, why even care about farming gear for ur buffers than? So everyone focuses on 1 Main char and 4 other trash chars, except Elf who needs ruud set. Obv we all could do the same BUT as Naive said, if u wanna have an advantage with buffs, you should take risk of getting ur buffers killed to consideration. Otherwise its simply cheating, move to map in 1 sec and move back the other sec. Its not like Buffs are gone within 10 seconds, he can stay there for the whole Boss fights if he doesnt Die.

It takes away the main feature of having Buffers at a cost of grinding and makign them " good " to keep em by bosses or as near as possible. I dont think u want 100+ buffers in 1 place xD like Aida 2.

tbh, I don't care :D It was always like that, we fought like that so long time and it was not a problem. But still, suggestion is suggestion, boss will check the probability of doing something or keep it like that

[Devil 326]

and yes, reset of buffs is a good suggestion for me too. Another way is decreasing the buff time, but this will be annoying )

[Naive 56]

3 minutes ago, Devil said:

tbh, I don't care :D It was always like that, we fought like that so long time and it was not a problem. But still, suggestion is suggestion, boss will check the probability of doing something or keep it like that

Suggestions like this aren’t just for personal gain—they’re about making the server a better place for all players, both old and new. Hopefully, with feedback like this, we can keep things competitive and fun for everyone. Thanks for being open to the discussion!

[vantoan91 18]

thanks guys, i didn't think this topic would be this interesting, it shows that Xlegend server still has a lot of people interested
Luckily i didn't break the rules here, but i also agree with your views, if it has to change then it will change, my job is to adapt to those changes

[Arturs 1,639]

Unfortunately, as other new-season servers, we're using files from IGCN. Of course, it will be nice, if these buffs just disappear after teleport - but it's technically impossible. 

It's impossible to fight against guys who make buffers. Those who played here like 3 years ago can remember, where buffs have much more powerful, win not those who have better gear or skills. Win those who have better buffers. That's why all buffs were significantly nerfed for the party members. And let's be honest - all guilds have used this tactic since Prime servers were opened in 2020. 

Currently, I don't have ideas of how to change this situation. The only thing - remove non-pvp from Aida. But I don't know how it will affect the regular players. 

[Devil 326]

13 minutes ago, Arturs said:

Unfortunately, as other new-season servers, we're using files from IGCN. Of course, it will be nice, if these buffs just disappear after teleport - but it's technically impossible. 

It's impossible to fight against guys who make buffers. Those who played here like 3 years ago can remember, where buffs have much more powerful, win not those who have better gear or skills. Win those who have better buffers. That's why all buffs were significantly nerfed for the party members. And let's be honest - all guilds have used this tactic since Prime servers were opened in 2020. 

Currently, I don't have ideas of how to change this situation. The only thing - remove non-pvp from Aida. But I don't know how it will affect the regular players. 

then u have to remove non-PvP from Lost tower too

[Naive 56]

11 minutes ago, Arturs said:

Unfortunately, as other new-season servers, we're using files from IGCN. Of course, it will be nice, if these buffs just disappear after teleport - but it's technically impossible. 

It's impossible to fight against guys who make buffers. Those who played here like 3 years ago can remember, where buffs have much more powerful, win not those who have better gear or skills. Win those who have better buffers. That's why all buffs were significantly nerfed for the party members. And let's be honest - all guilds have used this tactic since Prime servers were opened in 2020. 

Currently, I don't have ideas of how to change this situation. The only thing - remove non-pvp from Aida. But I don't know how it will affect the regular players. 

Removing Aida as a non-PvP map won't really address the core issue, as there are plenty of other non-PvP maps players can use to warp their buffers from, like Lost Tower and others. Non-PvP maps, especially Aida, should serve a specific purpose for game balance and player interactions.

So it is what it is. Let's migrate to Season 19 Part 2 and test our gameplay there.

[Arturs 1,639]

6 minutes ago, cyber_s said:

Removing Aida as a non-PvP map won't really address the core issue, as there are plenty of other non-PvP maps players can use to warp their buffers from, like Lost Tower and others. Non-PvP maps, especially Aida, should serve a specific purpose for game balance and player interactions.

So it is what it is. Let's migrate to Season 19 Part 2 and test our gameplay there.

Aida is the last non-pvp map.

[luxrio1 103]

2 minutes ago, Arturs said:

Aida is the last non-pvp map.

Cant you implement like, after you move to another map, that resets all buffs ?
I remember that this was a thing, atleast while Joining Arena / Stadium

[Naive 56]

Another potential solution could be to remove the ability to go into off-level mode on non-PvP maps like Davias. This could act as a partial fix—if players choose to use a non-PvP area for buffs, they wouldn’t be able to activate off-level there. This way, there’s still a trade-off for using non-PvP maps, helping to keep things balanced.

Currently, it’s possible to have three buffers in off-level mode with one active character plus the main. Removing off-level on non-PvP maps would reduce that setup to three total characters (two buffers plus the main), making it a bit more balanced.

If players decide to use all their buffers in one party, they would have to move them to PvP maps. This way, there’s a real risk of their buffers being found and killed, which would add a layer of strategy and fairness.